Some Gurus and Self-declared Godmen say: "I am God." This presupposes that they have the same miraculous and creative powers of God. They do not, however, display possession of such power. Such is the fallacy of their logic.
The Gurus who declare “I am God or “I am Brahman" is merely repeating like parrot words which they have read in the scriptures or heard.+
All the philosophies are a mental fabrication. There has never been a single doctrine by which one could enter the true essence of things.+
Nagarjuna:~ All the philosophies are a mental fabrication. There has never been a single doctrine by which one could enter the true essence of things.
Sage Sankara clearly says:~ Neither studying philosophy nor by worship as many gods nor observe ceremonies nor by singing devotional hymns nor by uttering mantra nor by mastering the scriptures liberation comes without realizing the Oneness.
A donkey with a load of holy books is still a donkey. A person who mastered scriptural knowledge is still a scholar, not a Gnani
Scriptures are being added from time to time. This process will go on. There is the final authority among them? One contradicts the other: duality reigns supreme.
The Upanishads are Self-contradictory. Every pundit even gives conflicting interpretations of them. The final authority, therefore, is using one’s own reason. One should apply his reason to them.
The scriptures are for the ignorant masses, who wholly accept the material world as it presents itself. Gnana is for those who have begun to realize that things are not what they seem.
The Scriptures are of value only when dealing with persons who are incapable of understanding the truth. They have no value as authority for those who use reason.
I quote only the verified citation from the scriptures. I need no scriptures, but I quote them to help the seekers realize the scriptures are saying
The Upanishads are the only scriptures in the world that says: ~
It is impossible to find and realize the truth via religion and scriptural study.
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Katha Upanishad: ~ This Atman cannot be attained by the study of the Vedas, or by intelligence, or by much hearing of sacred books. It is attained by him alone whom It chooses. To such a one The Soul reveals its own form. (Katha Upanishad Ch-II -23-P-20)
Mundaka Upanishad: ~ This Atman cannot be attained through the study of the Vedas, nor through intelligence, nor through much learning. He who chooses Atman—by him alone is Atman attained. It is the Atman that reveals to the seeker Its true nature. (3 –page-70~ Upanishads by Nikilanada)
When the Upanishad says: The human goal is to acquire ‘Self’-Knowledge and they indicate the personal Gods, scriptures, worship, and rituals are not the means to ‘Self’ –Knowledge, then why anyone should indulge in it.
The religion, concept of individualized God, and scriptures are the greatest obstacle to realize non-dual truth or ‘Self’-realization because they are based on false ‘Self’.
The seeker of truth has to search for the ultimate truth without losing himself in the labyrinths of philosophy, through deeper ‘Self’-search and assimilate and realize it. : ~ Santthosh Kumaar
There is no use of prostration to holy sandals of the Guru or indulgencing in Pada Pooja (feet worship) when the inner Guru is Soul, the ‘Self’, which is ever formless, timeless, and spaceless existence. +
A person who realized the ultimate truth or Brahman will throw off his religious robe and all religious identity and lives like a commoner. He never identifies himself as Gnani nor does he identify himself as superior to others. He only shares his knowledge with fellow seekers.
On Vedic perspective, Vedas bar human worship. There is no need for the seeker of truth to indulge in Guru Worship.
The seeker has to go beyond the religion. Go beyond religion means, go beyond the belief in religious God to realize the real God hidden by ignorance.
When one goes into the annals of history it looks like the true Advaita expounded by Sage Sankara and Sage Gaudapada was lost or mutilated by the orthodoxy because the orthodoxy preaching and practice do not match.
Orthodoxy talks of Advaita but their practice is dualistic. The orthodoxy is nothing to do with Advaita because they are based on the experience of birth, life, death, and the world whereas the Sage Sankara's wisdom is based on Soul, which is ever birthless and deathless and worldless.
There is no use of prostration to holy sandals of the Guru or indulgencing in Pada Pooja (feet worship) when the inner Guru is Soul, the ‘Self’, which is ever formless, timeless, and spaceless existence.
The guru who identifies with his experience of birth, life, death, and the world, and the disciple who worships his guru’s body, will remain ignorant of the truth beyond the form, time, and space. Without getting rid of the ignorance they will never get freedom from experiencing the dualistic illusion as a reality.
People think prostrating to a religious Guru, adoring which the worst poverty-stricken,
have turned out to be great possessors of wealth, and even the mutes have turned out to be great masters of speech are ideas based on the dualistic perspective is meant for the ignorant populace which accepts the world as a reality. From the standpoint of the Soul, the ‘Self’, the world in which birth, life, and death take place is merely an illusion.
People think by prostrating to the physical Guru, which serves as the downpour of water to put out the fire of misfortunes, which remove the groups of distresses of those who prostrate to them. The devotion to physical Guru and which grace with the valuable dominion of renunciation is the religious idea. All the religious belief is nothing to with the ultimate truth or Brahman or God in truth.
The devotion to physical Guru and which grace with the valuable dominion of renunciation is the religious idea.
A person who realized the ultimate truth or Brahman will throw off his religious robe and his religious identity and becomes free from experiencing the illusory duality as a reality.
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There is a need to do deeper research on Vedic religion and bifurcate the present Hindu religion, which is mixed-up with Buddhism, Jainism, and also ideas adopted from other ideologies to know the pure essence of Vedas. It is also necessary to verify the validity of dual and non-dual ideologies, which are based on Vedas to know they are mere add-ons. The original Sanatana Dharma was without all these ideologies.
Swamis or gurus claim themselves to be God and people worship and glorify them as God in human form. They are trying to establish a regular religious sect of their own by taking advantage of the mass mindset,
The ignorant people accept believe anyone who is propagating about their religion and God as avatars. This is an unhappy development of the religious movement.
There can be no correct exposition in the Upanishads unless the guru has had the experience of the truth. Otherwise, it is merely adding words to words. The sage will not do immoral things that are impossible.
It is difficult for people to understand such texts as, “God, Guru and the Self are one." No on rises voice against the practice of deifying the Guru they think it is against their religion and tradition.
If God, guru and the Self are one -- it means the self is Atman and Atman is god and guru, not the body. Thus, one who thinks of himself as a guru is considered the Self as his body and allows people to worship his body as God, thus he is not God because he is not aware of the fact that, the self is the formless Atman or Consciousness or Spirit.
Few people can think beyond physicality voice against the practice of deifying the Guru
The traditional attitude towards the Guru is glorifying him as a God. It is necessary to verify the facts on this subject at some length. This is not referred to anyone in particular. The present verification of facts is general and irrespective of any particular person and their beliefs.
In religious orthodox literature is full of such aphorisms as:~
There is no higher deity than the Guru'
The Guru is the ultimate Truth and Deity
God and Avatars (incarnations) are secondary to the Guru in importance
There is no higher refuge, no higher target, no higher destination than the Guru
The Guru is God Himself
God and the Guru are one
He who makes a distinction between the Guru and God are ignorant and stupid and scores of similar others. Some celebrated philosopher-saints have offered their first salutations to the Guru in their various books.
Why worship and glorify the GURUS and YOGIS when Vedas bar human worship:~ ~
Translation 3
"They are enveloped in darkness, in other words, are steeped in ignorance and sunk in the greatest depths of misery who worship the uncreated, eternal prakrti -- the material cause of the world -- in place of the All-pervading God, But those who worship visible things born of the prakrti, such as the earth, trees, bodies (human and the like) in place of God are enveloped in still greater darkness, in other words, they are extremely foolish, fall into an awful hell of pain and sorrow, and suffer terribly for a long time."- [Yajur Veda 40:9.]
Then why worship and glorify the GURUS and YOGIS (human form) in place of God when Veda bars such activities and it also warns people who indulge in such activities are enveloped in still greater darkness, in other words, they are extremely foolish, fall into an awful hell of pain and sorrow, and suffer terribly for a long time.
Swami Vivekananda said:~ “You have to grow from the inside out. None can teach you, none can make you spiritual. There is no other teacher but your own Soul.”
Sage Sankara clearly indicates in Vivekachudamani (2) that the Knower of the Atman (A Gnani) "bears no outward mark of a holy man" (Stanza 539).
Sage Sankara:~ (11) As regards the rituals, Sage Sankara says, the person who performs rituals and aspires for rewards will view himself in terms of the caste into which he is born, his age, the stage of his life, his standing in society, etc. Also, he is required to perform rituals all through his life. However, the ‘Self’ has none of those attributes or tags. Hence, the person who superimposes all those attributes on the changeless, eternal Self and identifies ‘Self’ with the body is confusing one for the other; and is, therefore, an ignorant person. The scriptures dealing with rituals, rewards, etc. are therefore addressed to an ignorant person. -Adhyasa Bhashya
Sage Sankara:~ (11.1) This ignorance (mistaking the body for ‘Self’) brings in its wake a desire for the well-being of the body, aversion for its disease or discomfort, fear of its destruction, and thus a host of miseries(anartha). This anartha is caused by projecting karthvya(“doer” sense) and bhokthavya (object) on the Atman. Sankara calls this adhyasa. The scriptures dealing with rituals, rewards, etc. are, therefore, he says, addressed to an ignorant person. Adhyasa Bhashya
Sage Sankara:~ (11.2) In short, the person who engages in rituals with the notion “I am an agent, doer, thinker”, according to Sage Sankara, is ignorant, as his behavior implies a distinct, separate doer/agent/knower; and an object that is to be done/achieved/known. That duality is Avidya, an error that can be removed by Vidya. Adhyasa Bhashya
In religious and yogic path Guru is needed, but guru is not needed to acquire Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana.
Gnana (wisdom) is given neither from outside nor from another person. Guru of everyone is only the Soul, the ‘Self’ that is always revealing on its own.
Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana is the raft to cross this endless ocean of the dualistic illusion. : ~ Santthosh Kumaar
Buddhist fail to recognize the emptiness is the nature of the Athma, the 'Self'.+
Bhagavan Buddha's teachings that all life is misery belong to the relative standpoint only. For you cannot form any idea of misery without contrasting it with its opposite, happiness. The two will always go together. Bhagavan Buddha taught the goal of cessation of misery, i.e. peace, but took care not to discuss the ultimate standpoint for then he would have had to go above the heads of the people and tell them that misery itself was only an idea, that peace even was an idea (for it contrasted with peacelessness). That the doctrine he gave out was a limited one, is evident because he inculcated compassion. Why should a Buddhist sage practice pity? There is no reason for it.
Advaita is the next step higher than Buddhism because it gives the missing reason, viz. unity, non-difference from others, and because it explains that it used the concept of removing the sufferings of others, of lifting them up to happiness, only as we use one thorn to pick out another, afterward throw both away. Similarly, Advaita discards both concepts of misery and happiness from the ultimate standpoint of non-duality, which is indescribable.
Buddhists say that a thing exists only for a moment, and if that thing has still got some of the substance from which it was produced, how then can they deny that its cause is continuing in the effect; hence its existence is more than a moment. Vedanta is concerned with whether it is one and the same thing which has come into being, or has it come out of nothing.
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Buddhism has not proved the truth of Nonduality because they do not believe in the existence of Athma they believed in emptiness. Without Athma there is no nonduality. Buddhist fail to recognize the emptiness is the nature of the Athma, the 'Self'.
Sage Sankara proved the existence of God in truth on the Vedic perspective and also proved the existence of God rationally.
Unless we bifurcate Buddha from Buddhism and Sage Sankara from Hinduism, the Advaita hidden by the Dvaita will not be revealed.
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Buddhist Sutra and Sage Sankara’s Advaitic Wisdom
Heart sutra: ~ “Gate, gate para gate parasamgate Bodhi svaha”
Heart Sutra is a great sutra. Yes, it takes us to the inner realm but all the Buddhist sutras are limited to form alone not to the entire form, time, and space, we have to go beyond form, time, and space by a perfect understanding of ‘ what is what’.
Since the Self is not the form but the ‘Self’ is formless, timeless, and spaceless existence. All the Skandas are in the physical realm (Form, feeling, perception, mental formation, and consciousness). The Self is not limited to physicality, but it pervades everything and everywhere in the entire form, time, and space. Thus, the heart sutra yields only half-truth.
The Buddhist scriptures were completely distorted by the time of Sage Sri, Sankara; therefore, it is not possible to get the pure essence of Bhagwan Buddha’s teaching. Buddhism is mixed up and messed up with other religions wherever it existed in Asia.
Sage Sankara had to criticize the Buddhist literature prevailing then as the Buddhists themselves were confused as to what Shunyata is.
Dalai Lama said: ~ Buddhism need not be the best religion though it is most scientific and religion and inquisitive. But Buddhism has no answer to certain questions like the existence of Atama (Soul) and rebirth. Dali Lama said that as an individual he believes in rebirth as he had come across a few cases of rebirth. Modern science, Dalai Lama hoped would unearth the mystery behind the rebirth. (In DH –dec-212009-Gulburga)
Dalai Lama was right in pointing out Buddhism need not be the best religion though it is most scientific and religion and inquisitive. But Buddhism has no answer to certain questions like the existence of Atama (Soul) and rebirth.
Buddhism has not proved the truth of Non-duality. There is no doubt Bhagavan Buddha pointed out the unreality of the world. He told people they were foolish to cling to it. But he stopped there. He came nearest to Advaita in speech but not to Advaita fully.
The distinction between Sage Sankara’s Advaita and Vijnanavadin Buddhism is that the former is mentalism i.e. mind is the real, whereas the latter is idealism, i.e. ideas are real. Advaitins follow the former.
Buddhism did not graduate its teaching to suit people of varying grades; hence its failed to affect society in Asia.
Bhagavan Buddha as a constructive worker committed an error in failing to give the masses a religion, something tangible they could grasp something materialistic, if symbolic that their limited intellect could take hold of, in addition to his ethics and philosophy. Here Sag Sankara was wiser and gave religion; such as Bhakti, worship, etc.--to the ignorant masses, as well as Advaitic wisdom to those of higher intellect.
Sage Sankara' gave religious, rituals, or dogmatic instruction to the populace, but pure philosophy only to the few who could rise to it. Hence, the interpretation of his writings by commentators is often confusing because they mix up the two viewpoints. Thus, they may assert that ritual is a means of realizing Brahman, which is absurd.
The Upanishads have the answer for the existence of the Atama. Brihadaranyaka Upanishad: ~ Brahman (God) is present in the form of the Athma, and it is indeed Athma itself.
Advaita is the next step higher than Buddhism because it gives the missing reason, viz. unity, non-difference from others, and because it explains that it used the concept of removing the sufferings of others, of lifting them up to happiness, only as we use one thorn to pick out another, afterward throw both away. Similarly, Advaita discards both concepts of misery and happiness from the ultimate standpoint of non-duality, which is indescribable.
Sage Sankara disagrees with Buddhists who say, there is nothing - a nonentity. Sage Sankara believes there is some reality, even though things are not what they appear to be. If one knows the truth, he will know what to do to find inspiration for action. The seeker of truth‘s subject is to know what is it that is Real.
Buddhism says: all things are illusory and nothing exists. However, Advaita avers that it is not so. It says that the universe, of course, is illusory, but there is Brahman (consciousness), that exists forming the very substratum of all things (illusion or universe). : ~ Santthosh Kumaar
Bhagvan Buddha: ~We ourselves must walk the path.+
Bhagavan Buddha: ~ There are only two mistakes one can make along the
road to truth: not going all the way... and not starting.
It is no use arguing Bhagavan Buddha is wrong or Sage Sri Sankara is right, but where we are going wrong in our understanding the non-dualistic or Advaitic truth, propagated by the great sages of the past. Some say, that without the sunyavada, Advaita philosophy could not have come into existence because Advaita starts from where sunyavada ends. That is why they say it is an extension of Buddhism. If Advaita existed prior to Bhagavam Buddha, he would not have advocated sunyavada at all because Advaita is the final and ultimate truth.
Since the Buddhist and the Vedic scriptures have been passed down by hearing, they were written down only relatively late, so one wouldn't know whether to rely on the times they give. Also, a lot depends on the translation. Each 'Sloka' or sutta is open to many layers of interpretation.
Bhagvan Buddha: ~ No one saves us but ourselves. No one can and no one may. We ourselves must walk the path.
Only the intellectuals argue to exhibit their intellectual wealth. The intellectual argument is based on ego.+
Advaitic wisdom of Sage Sankara is not acquired by a debate but by discriminating between what is real and what is what unreal one becomes aware of the Self hidden by the unreality.
Atmic path is not a question and answers session. Atmic path is not the path exchange views and opinion. I have bifurcated what is not needed to realize the truth, which is hidden by the illusory form, time, and space.
There is no need to follow anyone. Self-realization becomes easy if you independently walk your path.+
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