The ‘I’ is inborn samskara or conditioning, because of this inborn samskara or conditioning, the illusory universe or Maya is experienced as reality.+

One should not wish for the easy way to search for the truth. In an easy way, there is ignorance. Ignorance is inborn.

Ignorance is present in the form of ' the ‘I'. Ignorance has been nourished and passed on from one generation to the next. Without getting rid of this inborn ignorance, it is impossible to realize the ultimate truth or Brahman or God in truth.

The world in which we exist (waking) is the product of ignorance. The world, in which we exist ceases to exist without ignorance. In Self-awareness, there is neither man nor the world because the world in which we exist is an illusion created out of the Soul which is present in the form of consciousness. The Soul is the Self.

From the standpoint of the Soul the Self, the man along with the world is merely an illusion.

Ignorance is present in the form of the ‘T’. 'I' is present in the form of the mind. The Mind is present in the form of the universe. The universe appears in the form of the waking or the dream (duality) and disappears as deep sleep (non-duality)

The ‘I’ is inborn samskara or conditioning, because of this inborn samskara or conditioning, the illusory universe or Maya is experienced as reality.

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The Soul without the ‘I’ is God. God is hidden by ‘I’.

Remember, the ‘I’ is not an individual because the ‘I’ is the whole universe. Limiting the ‘I’ to individuality is the cause of experiencing the dualistic illusion a reality?

The nature of the ‘I’ is the nature of the mind.

The nature of the mind is the nature of the universe.

The nature of the universe is the nature of the waking.

The nature of waking is the nature of the illusion.

Thus, it is necessary to study the nature of the ‘I’ to unfold the mystery of the universe.

All the teachings limit the ‘I’ to an individual and glorify the ‘I’ without knowing what this ‘I’ supposed to be in actuality. All ‘I’ based teachings are inadequate and useless for the serious seeker of truth.

If you are seeking truth nothing but the truth must discard without mercy such teaching in order to progress in your spiritual quest.

The seeker must know the ‘I’ is not limited to individuality. The seeker has to see the ‘I’ as the universe, in order to overcome ignorance. When the Advaitic wisdom dawns, then the ignorance vanishes.

When ignorance vanishes and the dualistic illusion (world) you used to think as reality becomes unreal. :~

Santthosh Kumaar

Religious Gurus are not Gnanis, they propagate only religion. Religion is not spirituality or Adyathma.+

Religious Gurus are not Gnanis, they propagate only religion. Religion is not spirituality or Adyathma.

Adyatma is nothing to do with religious sect or creed and religious belief. Adyatma is pure spirituality. Knowledge of Atma is Adyatma. Advaita is Adyatma.

Adyatma is the knowledge of the truth beyond the form, time, and space. Bifurcate religion, yoga, and theoretical philosophy and based the truth on the Athma it is Adyatma.

Adyatma is based on the ultimate truth which is based on the Atma or Spirit, which is the Self.

Sage Sankara's Advaitic wisdom is pure spirituality or Adyathma.

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Religious Gurus do not propagate wisdom they are meant for guiding ignorant populace in practical life within the practical world. Many Religious gurus are serving humanity by giving free education and maintain love and harmony in society but they are nothing to do with the Atmic path.

The Guru is nothing to do with Advaitic wisdom. A Gnani never identifies himself as a guru.

There are so many in the guise of Gurus and Godmen with criminal records who indulge in cheating rape, murder.

The Gurus and Godmen who promise instant enlightenment or Self-realization are not Gnanis. Mixing religion with the Atmic path is like mixing oil in the water.

Seekers from the west mistake whoever calls them gurus are Gnanis, thus, their mission of seeking the truth is misguided by such Gurus.

Those mystics, who talk of experiencing the supreme reality, do not know that the word experience implies something else, a second to be experienced, i.e. duality, i.e. non-reality, and those who talk of "direct knowledge" of reality again do not perceive that knowledge implies a second thing to be known; i.e.duality exists. i.e. no reality here!

The Guru and disciple and the world in which Guru and disciple exist are created out of single stuff. That single stuff is consciousness. Consciousness is the ultimate truth of Brahman.

By identifying as a Guru or some Guru’s disciple keeps one in the cage of ignorance. A person who identifies himself as a Guru or disciple will never be able to get Advaitic Gnana.

Guru, disciple concept is meant for the religious and yogic path. In the Atmic path, the Guru and disciple concept have no value.

A person who realized the ultimate truth or Brahman will throw off his religious robe and all religious identity and lives like a commoner. He never identifies himself as Gnani nor does he identify himself as superior to others. He only shares his knowledge with fellow seekers.

A Gnani never identifies himself as a Guru or a Yogi or someone disciple. The one who accepts himself as a Guru or someone’s disciple is not a Gnani.

Ashtavakra Samhita: ~ "The man of knowledge (Gnani), though living like an ordinary man, is contrary to him and only those like him understand his state.

A Gnani can point at the sky, but the seeing of the star is the seeker's own work.

The truth-seeker seeks only the truth. The inner Sage will guide you with love. Your sincerity and seriousness lead you to your inner core. Sincere and serious seekers are not excluded.

All the chosen ones will get freedom from experiencing the illusion (duality) as a reality. All the seekers of truth are chosen ones.

Katha Upanishads: ~ This Atman is attained by him alone whom It chooses. To such a one Atman reveals Its own form. (II -23-P-20)

All the chosen ones will get freedom from experiencing the illusion (duality) as a reality. All the seekers of truth are chosen ones.

Sage Sankara: ~ "Though I wear these robes of a Sanyasin, it is only for the sake of bread." (Select Works of Sage Sankara" also his commentary on Brihad)

Thus, the above passage proves that all those who were the sanyasin robes are wearing it for the sake of bread belongs to the religion; they are nothing to do with the Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana.

There is no need to criticize and condemn the Gurus, yogis, and swamis because they are needed for the welfare of ignorant masses in the dualistic world.

Sage Sankara says the transparent Truth of the Self, which is hidden by the illusion, is to be attained through the instructions of a knower of Brahman, (Gnani)

~ Then why you are sticking to a Guru who is not a Gnani.

That is why Swami Vivekananda said: ~ “You have to grow from the inside out. None can teach you, none can make you spiritual. There is no other teacher, but your own Soul.”

Yogis and Gurus are not Gods.

This idea of worshiping Guru as God is not a Vedic idea but adopted from Jainism and Buddhism.

Vedas bars human worship: ~

"They are enveloped in darkness, in other words, are steeped in ignorance and sunk in the greatest depths of misery who worship the uncreated, eternal prakrti -- the material cause of the world -- in place of the All-pervading God, But those who worship visible things born of the prakrti, such as the earth, trees, bodies (human and the like) in place of God are enveloped in still greater darkness, in other words, they are extremely foolish, fall into an awful hell of pain and sorrow, and suffer terribly for a long time.":~ (Yajur Veda 40:9.)

Then why worship and glorify the Gurus and Yogis (human form) in place of God when Veda bars such activities and it also warns people who indulge in such activities are enveloped in still greater darkness, in other words, they are extremely foolish, fall into an awful hell of pain and sorrow, and suffer terribly for a long time.

No one has ever seen God by practicing religion or yoga or indulging in glorifying the religious God and Goddesses because God exists prior to the form, time, and space.

The form, time, and space cease to exist as a reality when wisdom dawns. Thus, the Gods and Gurus have no place in the domain of the Advaitic reality. Advaita is the nature of the Soul, which is the real God. Thus, Self-realization is the only way to God-realization.

By worshipping the religious Gods and Gurus one will not get Self-realization or God-realization.

The Soul, the inner Guru reveals ‘what is real’ and ‘what is unreal” when the seeker is receptive and ready. : ~

Santthosh Kumaar

Bhagavad Gita says: ~ Among thousands of men, scarcely one strives for perfection; and of those who strive and succeed, scarcely one knows the ‘Self’ in truth.+

Sage Sankara says liberation comes, but only through the realization that Atman and Brahman are one in no other way. (1) Vivekachoodamani v 56, pg 25

Bhagavad Gita Chapter 6 which deals with meditation, verse 11 and 12. It says "Yoga is for purification." This means yoga is not for truth but discipline.

Manduka Upanishad:~ Yoga is in the sphere of duality and is unnecessary to one who knows non-duality

Yogi may see a hill in his Yogic Samadhi, but how does he know that hill is Brahman?

Sage Goudapada’s rational exposition of Advaita: ~ Whatever is seen, whether external or internal, whether by the ordinary persons or yogis, is unreal

First of all, you must give the meaning of Brahman!

BRAHMAN -The English use of the word real as applied to the material world, whereas Indian Sages of truth use it as applied to unseen Brahman. Hence many errors have arisen in translations from the Sanskrit.

BRAHMAN- The word Brahman or Sat has no proper equivalent in English. The nearest is ultimate reality or ultimate truth. The west, however, applies reality to individual objects or to the multiplicity of them all: whereas Sages of Advaita apply it to the non-duality. Brahman is called "That" because it is something not known yet by the seeker.

The Brahman means the ultimate truth or ultimate reality. The ultimate reality is God in truth.

A madman can say, “This rock is an elephant.” So until he defines an elephant we cannot say what he means.

It is no use seeing the personal God everywhere. You must see the Soul, which is present in the form of consciousness everywhere, and then you will be able to treat the world in which you exist as the consciousness.

First, you must know what God is supposed to be.

There is a clear-cut idea in the scriptures, what is supposed to be God. And what not to worship in place of God then why worship the belief in the religious idea of God, which not God.

That is why Lord Krishna Says Ch ~V: ~ “Those who know the Self in truth.". The last two words (tattvataha) are usually ignored by pundits, but they make all the difference between the ordinary concept of God and the truth about God.

Bhagavad Gita: ~ Brahmano hi pratisthaham ~ Brahman (God) is considered the all-pervading consciousness, which is the basis of all the animate and inanimate entities and material. (14.27)

Rig Veda: ~ The Atman is the cause; Atman is the support of all that exists in this universe. May ye never turn away from the Atman, the Self. May ye never accept another God in place of the Atman nor worship other than the Atman?" (10:48, 5)

In Yajurveda – chapter- 32:~ It has been said that God Supreme or Supreme Spirit has no ‘Pratima’ (idol) or material shape. God cannot be seen directly by anyone. God pervades all beings and all directions.

Thus, Idolatry does not find any support from the Vedas.

Brihadaranyaka Upanishad: ~ Brahman (God) is present in the form of the Athma, and it is indeed Athma itself.

People, who worship the belief-based God, are hallucinating that they become one with such God.

Brihadaranyaka Upanishad:~ "He who worships the deities as entities entirely separate from him does not know the truth. For the Gods, he is like a pasu (beast)". (1. 4. 10)

Bhagavad Gita:~ All those whose intelligence has been stolen by material desires, they worship many God s. (7- Verse -20)

Vedas itself declares: May ye never accept another God in place of the Atman nor worship other than the Atman? Thus, to know the real God Self-realization is necessary. Self-realization is God-realization. Self-realization itself is real worship.

Bhagavad Gita says ~ “Don't unsettle the minds of ignorant by revealing the esoteric truth."

Bhagavad Gita says: ~ Among thousands of men, scarcely one strives for perfection; and of those who strive and succeed, scarcely one knows the ‘Self’ in truth. : ~

Santthosh Kumaar

The seeker has to make a distinction between the dualistic perspective and the non-dualistic perspective.+

The seeker has to make a distinction between the dualistic perspective and the non-dualistic perspective.

On the non-dualistic perspective, the world in which he exists is an illusion. On the dualistic perspective, the world in which he exists is a reality.

If the seeker wants to realize the truth, then he has to discard all the religious beliefs and yogic practices, and scriptural studies.

Nothing is needed in pursuit of truth other, then intense urge and receptivity to realize the truth, which is beyond the form, time, and space.

That is why Sage Sankara: ~ VC Let erudite scholars quote all the Scripture, let Gods be invoked through sacrifices, let elaborate rituals be performed, let personal Gods be propitiated---yet, without the realization of one‘s identity With the Self, there shall be no liberation for the individual, not even in the lifetimes of a hundred Brahmas put together (verses-6)

Sage Sankara said:~ -Neither by the practice of yoga nor philosophy, nor by good works nor by learning, does liberation come, but only through the realization that Atman and Brahman are one in no other way. (1) Vivekachoodamani v 56, pg~25

Sage Sankara’s wisdom is nothing to do with religion and yoga.

There are two kinds of audiences - the ordinary ones who desire the transitory heaven and other pleasures obtained as a result of ritual sacrifices, and the most advanced seeker who seeks to know the truth beyond the form, time, and space. Religion and yoga are meant for the first audience, to help lead its followers along the way. Sage Sankara’s Advaita, with its emphasis on Advaitic wisdom, is meant for those who wish to go beyond such transient pleasures.

First, you have to realize the ‘Self’ is not you but the ‘Self’ is the Soul, which is present in the form of the consciousness. It is the Soul that is in ignorance. It is the Soul that is experiencing the dualistic illusion (the world, in which you exist) as a reality. When the Soul wakes up in its own awareness the ignorance vanishes then the illusory reality (the world, in which you exist) never again remains as a reality.

There is nothing to realize other than realizing the universe in which you exist is nothing but the consciousness. The consciousness alone is real and eternal the universe is merely an illusion. The consciousness is the ultimate truth or Brahman or God. : ~ Santthosh Kumaar

MAX PLANCK- Father of quantum physics says:~Science has no answer to it. Science cannot solve the ultimate mystery of nature.+

Science has no answer to it. Science cannot solve the ultimate mystery of nature. And that is because, in the last analysis, we ourselves are part of the mystery that we are trying to solve. -MAX PLANCK- Father of quantum physics

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Until the scientists become the seeker of the truth of their existence, the truth will not reveal. The truth of the universe cannot be got under the microscope.

When all their invention fails to yield the truth they have to use their reason to reach the ultimate core of their existence.

The man who possesses the highest intellect can grasp Advaita, by merely hearing the truth mentioned will know it.

Bhagvad Gita: ~ Reason as a means to reality. (Chap.18 verse 37)

In chap. 10 of in Bhagvad Gita, Krishna says: ~ I cannot save you, but I can give you Buddhi (reason). (chap. 10)

In chap. 10 of in Bhagvad Gita, Krishna says: ~ "I have given you the most secret teaching, now reflect over it all" Krishna plainly says reflect, think. (Verse 63 of Chap. 18)

Mundaka Upanishad says: ~ Both states are harmful and take you away from the path of inquiry into truth. (Page 234)

Ashtavakra Gita: ~ It is not the absence of Buddhi (Reason) that can grasp Advaita but the man who possesses the highest intellect. Brains are necessary. Such a man, by merely hearing the truth mentioned will know it. (Page~ 224)

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Science declares that oxygen combines with hydrogen to give water. And it also declares oxygen is protons or electrons.

Advaitic Sages consider the whole physical existence (universe or mind) as an illusion and science and their inventions, which are based on the physical existence is limited to physical existence, which is an illusion. The truth is hidden within the physical existence or illusion.

Until the scientist realizes the whole universe is created out of single stuff and that single stuff is the Soul or consciousness. Thus, consciousness is the ultimate truth.

Science demands physical proof. But the physical proof is part of the illusion. Hence, science cannot go beyond physicality, because the truth cannot be traced in laboratory conditions. A Deeper Self -search is required if one wants to push its quest deeply enough.

A deeper self –search reveals the fact that the matter and the Spirit are one in essence. Thus, the matter is Spirit. When the matter is created out of the Spirit then the matter has no value because there is no second thing that exists, other than the Spirit.

Science cuts itself from the witness (Soul or Spirit) and remains aloof from the witnessed (universe or matter). The scientist not only stands aside, outside the field of the witness. It is because the scientist is unaware of the witness, which is apart from the witnessed, and he and his invention are part of the witnessed. Therefore, science cannot cross the threshold of physical existence (form, time, and space). Thus, its inventions are limited to form, time, and space.

Science is based on objects; its invention is based on an object as a subject. Thus modern science can get the truth of the objectified subject. Elimination of object mentally and realizing the subject then judging the worldview on the base of the pure subject leads to the discovery of ultimate truth.

The feelings and impressions and notions are based on the physical Self (ego or the waking entity). The scientific inventions are based on the physical Self. A deeper self -search reveals the fact that the waking entity (ego) is false Self within the false experience (waking).

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Science has begun to admit that the world of the Spirit and the world of matter are not two antipodes... A leading British astronomer, Sir James Jeans, confessed that the scientific conception of the universe in the past was mistaken and that the borderline between the objective world, as it is manifested in nature, and the subjective one, as it expresses itself through the mind, hardly exists. In [a 1934 address at Cornell University], he said: “The Nature we study does not consist so much of something we perceive as of our perceptions, it is not the object ... but the relation itself. There is, in fact, no clear-cut division between the subject and object.” Twenty years earlier, such a statement would have been sheer heresy. Likewise, a search for the Ultimate Reality that we usually call "God," a search along both intellectual and unorthodox lines; need not be regarded as either heresy or sacrilege.

The sun, the moon, the stars, planets shine because of the Soul or the Spirit. The Soul shines and all things else shine as a result. Everything in the universe reflects but that light of the Soul, which is present in the form of consciousness. Merely knowing the truth is not enough to escape from the tangle of illusion. One must realize the truth with firm conviction.

The 'I' is the mind. The mind is present in the form of the universe.

From the standpoint of the Soul, the Self the universe is merely an illusion. The illusion arises from ignorance. Enlightenment comes with detachment from the illusion by realizing the experience of the form, time and space are one in essence.

The conclusion of any scientist has to be: ~

Everything is Spirit (Soul or the consciousness), which Sage scientist Sage Sankara declared 1200 years back –everything is Atman(Soul) because Atman present is in the form of consciousness or Spirit.  Science wholly accepts the material world as it presents itself. Non-dualistic or Advaitic wisdom makes one realize that things are not what they seem.

The Soul, which is present in the form of consciousness (Spirit), is the root element of the universe.

From consciousness, the universe comes into existence. In consciousness, the universe resides. And into consciousness, the universe is dissolved. Consciousness is the parent of all that is there is. Consciousness is the ultimate truth or Brahman. Brahman is GOD.

Consciousness is the only reality, and the universe too but an illusory manifestation. : ~ Santthosh Kumaar

Till you hold all the religious ideas, the Soul will remain in the cage of ignorance.+

Religion blocks one from realizing God in truth because religion is based on myth whereas Spirituality is based on the truth.

God in truth is not based on your inherited blind faith or belief. The Religions are based on personal God whereas Sage Sankara’s Supreme Brahman (God) is impersonal,

All your religious-based accumulated knowledge will block you from realizing the truth, which is beyond form, time, and space. Be more rational in your thinking. Your religious conditioning will not allow you to cross the domain of the ‘I’.

Till you hold all the religious ideas, the Soul will remain in the cage of ignorance.

Drop your entire accumulated knowledge drop all the physical Gurus, the Soul the inner Guru, is waiting for you to take the first step for you to realize there are no more steps.

The seeker has to begin by defining "What is real?" "What is unreal? to establish in Advaitic reality by sheer reasoning alone. The reasoning is the right way to realize the truth, which is beyond the form, time, and space. People must first know what is the truth? and what is untruth’.

Sage Sankara’s wisdom is not teaching or philosophy but Advaita is the universal wisdom. Advaitic wisdom is neither a teaching nor a theory but it is mere guidance to those who are seriously seeking the ultimate truth or Brahman. Grasp the ultimate truth anytime, any age, if the seeker has the spiritual maturity and capacity to grasp it.

Sage Sankara says: ~ VC-47- All the effects of ignorance, root, and branch, are burnt down by the fire of knowledge, which arises from discrimination between these two—the Self and the not-Self.

It really depends on his inborn natural capacity to understand and assimilate it. Sage Sankara’s wisdom is a Self-examiner, to test oneself to discover how near to Gnana he has approached and what progress has already been made on the path, and what still remains to be done. It sets up a criterion for Self-judgement. There are millions in search of truth but one in million will be able to grasp it.

Without Sage Sankara, there is no Advaita (nonduality). Since it was mixed up with orthodoxy there is a lot of confusion. I am highlighting all the obstacles, which are blocking one from realizing the ultimate truth or Brahman or God in truth. There are so many non-dualistic masters of the east and also from the west who expound Advaitic or non-dualistic knowledge but none of them are helpful to reach the ultimate end.

One has to know and realize the  Self is Soul and identify it as his true identity to find liberation from the bondage of the illusion of birth, life, death, and the world (duality). The goal of our life is to find and realize our identity with our Soul, which is the  Self.

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Sage Sankara said:~ Talk as much philosophy as you like, worship as many Gods as you please, observe ceremonies, and sing devotional hymns, but liberation will never come, even after a hundred aeons, without realizing the Oneness.

Your quest does not begin with the Brahman or God. Brahman or God has to be proved, not assumed. Hence, so-called philosophers who take Brahman or God for granted are not philosophers at all.

Lots of Advaitin scholars will teach that all is yourself’, but none of them can show that this is so, none has analyzed it scientifically, and none can prove it. Rational proof is required so that one arrives at knowing the ultimate truth or Brahman or God i.e. Gnana. Theirs is merely a dogma, parrotism, and repetition of what they read in scripture. Authoritarianism merely assumes as true what another says, but what has yet to be proved.

Consciousness is that which knows everything, that which sees.  Consciousness alone remains after one gets rid of the ignorance.  Consciousness is only the witness; it is not Brahman or God that is an error. It becomes Brahman only after Soulcentric reasoning. Where there is no scope for two that is Brahman or God in truth.

The ‘I ‘or mind or universe, waking or dream or duality are one and the same thing. Since ‘I’ is identified as ‘Self’ all the confusion. holding ‘I’ or ‘I AM’ as the ‘Self’ is the cause of confusion. Holding the ‘Self’ as the ‘I’ or ‘I AM’ is blocking you from realizing the ultimate truth or Brahman, which is hidden by the ‘I’.

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The ‘I’ is not an individual but the ‘I’ is the whole universe. the ‘I’ is an object to the Soul, the formless subject. Thus, it is necessary to include the universe in the inquiry to realize the unreal nature of the ‘I’, which is present in the form of the universe.

When the whole universe, movable and immovable, is known to be consciousness, which is the Soul, the ‘Self’ and thus the existence of everything else is negated, where is then any room to say that the body is the ‘Self’?

Without causing the objective universe to transcend as consciousness and without knowing the truth of the ‘Self’, how is one to achieve the Oneness. : ~ Santthosh Kumaar

The ‘I’ is present in the form of the universe hides the consciousness because the universe is created out of the consciousness.+

In recent years an increasing number of cosmologists, theoretical physicists, and philosophers of science have argued that consciousness is a basic aspect of the cosmos. Sage Sankara has declared this truth in the 8th century.

Sage Sankara says Atman is Brahman and everything is Brahman is a scientific declaration not religious or yogic. Sage Sankara and Sage Goudpada are more scientific than anyone else in the world. Since the real Advaitic essence is hidden it cannot be got without the inner (mental) journey.

As indicated in the Upanishads and Bhagavad Gita all-pervading consciousness is the basis of all the animate and inanimate entities and material.

Consciousness is ‘Self’-evident. It is not established by extraneous proofs. It is not possible to deny consciousness because it is the very essence of the one who denies it.  Consciousness is the basis of all kinds of knowledge, presuppositions, and proofs. Consciousness is the true ‘Self’.

Consciousness is within, the consciousness is without; consciousness is before,  consciousness is behind;   consciousness is on the right,  consciousness is on the left;  consciousness is above and consciousness is below. 

Until one thinks of his body as body, ego as ego the universe as the universe, he remains in ignorance because he is still in ignorance and he is unaware of the fact that they too are consciousness.

Sage Sankara says you must first know what is before you. If you cannot know that, what else can you know or understand? If you give up the external world in your inquiry, you cannot get the whole truth.

A perfect understanding of ‘what is what” is needed to realize the truth, which is hidden by the form, time, and space. By getting stuck with ‘I-centric’ gurus and their teaching keeps one in the prison of hallucination. The ‘I’ is present in the form of the universe hides consciousness because the universe is created out of consciousness.

Sage Sankara: ~ “VC~ All this universe which through ignorance appears as of diverse forms, is nothing else but Brahman (consciousness) which is absolutely free from all the limitations of human thought.

The ‘Self ‘is not the ‘I’. The ‘Self’ is not within the body. The ‘Self’ is hidden by the ‘I’. The ‘I’ is ignorance. The ‘I’ is an illusion.

Bhagavad Gita: ~ “You must first see the ‘I’ as illusory before you see others as illusory. ~ CH.2 v.16

The seeker has to make sure what is this ‘I’ supposed to be? The seeker has to make sure the unreal nature of the ‘I’ which comes and goes in order to realize the truth, which is beyond the form, time, and space.

That is why Bhagavad Gita: ~ “The permanent is always there, only the transient ‘I’ comes and goes. (2.18)

The ‘I’ hides consciousness.

People think the ‘I’ without the body is the Self. The seeker has to understand the fact that ‘I’ is not the Self, but the witness of the ‘I’ is the true Self, which is eternal.

That is why Ashtavakra Gita 16:10:~ “If you desire liberation, but you still say "I," If you feel the ‘Self’ is the ‘I’, You are not a wise man or a seeker. You are simply a man who suffers.

People are stuck with the reality of the ‘I’, which they take it as real because some Gurus have propagated the Self is the ‘I’. There is no need to convince such a mindset. The seeker of truth accepts only the truth nothing but the truth.

That is why Sage Sankara says:~ VC-65. As a treasure hidden underground requires (for its extraction) competent instruction, excavation, the removal of stones and other such things lying above it and (finally) grasping, but never comes out by being (merely) called out by name, so the transparent Truth of the Self, which is hidden by Maya and its effects, is to be attained through the instructions of a knower of Brahman, followed by reflection, meditation and so forth, but not through perverted arguments.

People refuse to accept anything other than their Gurus words. For them, their Gurus words are the ultimate truth. They do not accept anything else other than their accepted truth. There is no need to convince such a mindset.

Such a mindset is not fit to acquire Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana. The seekers of truth accept only the truth nothing but the uncontradictable truth. : ~ Santthosh Kumaar