Q: ~ CAN ONE SEE CONSCIENCE WITH BEAR EYES OR IT WOULD BE ILLUSIONARY

Suppose if you had asked the same question in a dream, the dream becomes unreal when waking takes palace. Similarly, the waking becomes unreal when Advaitic wisdom dawns. The Advaitic wisdom dawns when you realize the ‘Self’ is not you but the ‘Self’ is the Soul, which is present in the form of consciousness. 

On the Standpoint of the Soul, the Self the world in which you exist is merely an illusion.  Thus, all the happening within the illusion is bound to be an illusion.  Until ignorance is there, the world in which you exist prevails as a reality.

When the ignorance vanishes through Advaitic wisdom than the world in which you exist which you think as reality becomes an illusion.

Sage Goudapada’s rational exposition of Advaita: ~  Whatever is seen, whether external or internal, whether by the ordinary persons or yogis, is unreal. 

Thus, whatever you have seen, known, believed, and experienced as a person within the waking experience is bound to be an illusion created out of consciousness.  Thus, the Soul, which is present in the form of consciousness alone, is real and eternal.

Consciousness is ever-present. Without consciousness the world, in which you exist ceases to exist.   Consciousness is Self-evident. It is not established by extraneous proofs. It is not possible to deny consciousness, because it is the very essence of the one who denies it. Consciousness is the basis of all kinds of knowledge, presuppositions, and proofs. Consciousness is everything. Thus, consciousness is the ultimate truth or Brahman. : ~ Santthosh Kumaar

Know the difference between Self-knowledge and meditation.+

The meditation always means the critical analysis of the Self to get rid of ignorance. People dip into meditation, but they do not understand that that is only one-half of the truth and that this dipping is also a mental discipline for them to understand the true nature of the external universe, which understanding they must next get if they are to become a Gnani.

The difference between Self-knowledge and meditation is that the former depends on knowledge of the Soul, the ‘Self’, whereas the latter depends on the yogi’s own feelings experience. Self-knowledge is Soulcentric-knowledge whereas the yogis’ experience is egocentric.

It is only the yogi who is striving to control his mind, who refrains from worldly duties, through fear of being distracted from his yogic Samadhi.

The Soul is the Self. The Soul is present in the form of consciousness. The whole universe and all its contents are created out of the Soul or consciousness. Thus, there is no second thing that exists other than consciousness. Thus, consciousness is the ultimate truth or Brahman or God in truth.

Once one knows what gold is, it is not necessary for him to see a pot again when the word 'gold' is uttered and its meaning sought. Similarly, once one knows Brahman, its true nature will always be known to him. Everything that one sees will be seen by him as by ordinary people, but it will also be known to him in its true nature as Brahman.

Ashtavakra says: ~ “This is your bondage, that you practice Samadhi or meditation.”

The meditation, meditator, and the world in which meditation performed is an illusion created out of single clay. That single clay is the Soul, which is present in the form of consciousness.

Knowledge of the single stuff is Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana. Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana leads to Self-awareness.

In Self-awareness, the Soul, the 'Self' remains in its own awareness in the midst of the dualistic illusion. Self-awareness is real meditation.

Advaita is the nature of the Soul, the Self. establishing in nondual the nature of the Soul is real meditation.  

The meditation always means the critical analysis of the Self to get rid of ignorance.

Chandogya Upanishad:~ One who meditates upon and realizes the 'Self' discovers that everything in the cosmos-- energy and space, fire and water, name and form, birth and death, mind and will, word and deed, mantrams and meditation--all come from the Self.

People dip into meditation, but they do not understand that that is only one-half of the truth and that this dipping is also a mental discipline for them to understand the true nature of the external universe, which understanding they must next get if they are to become a Gnani. : ~ Santthosh Kumaar

Realize what this ‘I’ in actuality then you will never use the word ‘I’ for the ‘Self’.+

The ‘Self is not in you but the ‘Self’ is hidden by the ‘I’. Realize what this ‘I’ in actuality then you will never use the word ‘I’ for the ‘Self’.

The seeker has to make sure what is this ‘I’ supposed to be? The seeker has to make sure the unreal nature of the ‘I’ which comes and goes in order to realize the truth, which is beyond the form, time, and space.

‘I’ is not the reality. Whenever the ‘I’ is there the dualistic illusion is present. Whenever dualistic illusion is present the world in which you exist is present. The world in which you exist appears and disappears.

Thus, ‘I’ appears and disappears. The ‘I’ is not permanent. The Soul, the Self is the witness of the coming and going, of the ‘I’. It is erroneous to identify the Soul, the Self as the ‘I'. ‘I’ represents ignorance. How can you watch the ‘I’ the truth which is hidden by the ‘I’?

By you keeping quiet and keeping silent the truth will not emerge.

The ‘I’ hides the Soul.

If the Self is not ‘I’ but the Self is the Soul then from the standpoint of the Soul, the Self:~

Where is the ‘I’?

Where is the ego?

Where is the body?

Where is the mind?

Where is the world in which you exist?

Where are the form, time, and space?

Where is the waking experience?

Where is the duality?

Where is void?

They are or have become one with the Soul which is present in the form of consciousness. Consciousness is the ultimate truth or Brahman or God in truth.

The ‘I’ is present only when the mind is present. The mind is present only when the world is present. The world is present only when there is a waking experience.

Deeper Self-search reveals the fact that the waking experience is not considered different from the world. The world is not considered different from the mind. The mind is not considered different from the’ I’. This truth has to be assimilated.

The ‘I’ is merely an illusion created out of the Soul, which is present in the form of consciousness. ‘I’ is not the subject. The ‘I’ is an object to the Soul, which is the formless, timeless, and spaceless subject.

If the ‘I’ is an illusion then the world in which you exist is bound to be an illusion.

If the ‘I’ is an illusion then three states, are bound to be an illusion.

If the ‘I’ is an illusion then the form, time, and space are bound to be an illusion.

If the 'I’ is an illusion then the individual experience of birth, life, death is bound to be an illusion.

If the ‘I’ is an illusion then the words and thoughts are bound to be an illusion.

If the ‘I’ is an illusion then the duality is bound to be an illusion.

Bhagavad Gita: ~ “You must first see the ‘I’ as illusory before you see others as illusory. ~ CH.2 v.16

There is nothing that exists prior to consciousness. The ‘I’ cease to exist without consciousness. The Soul, which is present in the form of consciousness, is the ultimate truth or Brahman.

That is why Bhagavad Gita: ~ The permanent (consciousness) is always there, only the transient ‘I’ comes and goes. (2.18)

The ‘I’ hides the Soul, the Self. 

Bhagavad Gita says: ~ ‘Brahmano hi pratisthaham’ ~ Brahman (God) is considered the all-pervading consciousness, which is the basis of all the animate and inanimate entities and material. (14.27).

When Bhagavad Gita says, God is considered the all-pervading consciousness which is the basis of all the animate and inanimate entities and material then nothing has to be accepted other than consciousness.

Consciousness is ever-present. Without consciousness, the world, in which you exist ceases to exist. Consciousness is Self-evident. It is not established by extraneous proofs. It is not possible to deny consciousness because it is the very essence of the one who denies it.

Consciousness is the basis of all kinds of knowledge, presuppositions, and proofs. Consciousness is everything. Thus, consciousness is the ultimate truth or Brahman or God in truth. : ~Santthosh Kumaar

Know What is Maya.+*

Different Gurus hold different views about Maya. In popular parlance, Maya means illusion.

Only a Gnani knows what is Maya? and what is the ultimate reality?

That is why Sage Sankara says: ~ ‘The transparent Truth of the Self, which is hidden by Maya and its effects, is to be attained through the instructions of a knower of Brahman' (Gnani).

We have to discard all accumulated knowledge accumulated from different Gurus and teachers.

In reality, three is no scope for two. Advaita means one without the second. Advaita means the Soul. The Soul, which is present in the form of consciousness, is one without the second.

Consciousness is one without the second because the world in which you exist is created out of consciousness. Thus, everything is consciousness. No second thing exists other than consciousness. Consciousness alone is real and eternal.

Advaitic truth has to be grasped mentally by realizing the form, time and space are one, in essence.

What is Maya: ~

The ignorance is Maya

The dualistic illusion is Maya

The ‘I’ is Maya.

The mind is Maya.

The form, time, and space are Maya.

The universe is Maya.

The three states are Maya.

The individual experience of birth, life, death, and the world is Maya.

Remember:~

When the Soul, the Self is caught up in the cage of ignorance then it is in the domain of the dualistic illusion or Maya.

The dualistic illusion or Maya is present in the form of the ‘I’.

The dualistic illusion or Maya is present in the form of the mind.

The dualistic illusion or Maya is present in the form of form, time, and space.

The dualistic illusion or Maya is present in the form of the universe.

The dualistic illusion or Maya is present in the form of waking.

The dualistic illusion or Maya is present in the form of the dream.

The dualistic illusion or Maya is present in the form of the individual experience of birth, life, death, and the world.

Remember:~

Without the dualistic illusion or Maya, there is no ‘I’.

Without the dualistic illusion or Maya, there is no mind.

Without the dualistic illusion or Maya, there is no form, time, and space.

Without the dualistic illusion or Maya, there is no universe.

Without the dualistic illusion or Maya, there is no form of waking.

Without the dualistic illusion or Maya, there is no dream.

Without the dualistic illusion or Maya, there is no individual experience of birth, life, death, and the world.

The Soul, the Self, which is present in the form of consciousness, is hidden by Maya.

Only through the sword of Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana the veil of ignorance vanishes and then the Soul, the Self shines as the ultimate truth or Brahman or God in truth.

Remember:~

People are stuck with the reality of the ‘I’ which itself is Maya.

People take the ‘I’, which is Maya as real because some Gurus have propagated the Self as the ‘I’. They refuse to accept ‘I’ as mays because they hold the ‘Self’ as the ‘I’.

There is no need to convince such A mindset. The seeker of truth accepts only the truth nothing but the truth.

That is why Sage Sankara says: ~ VC-65- As a treasure hidden underground requires (for its extraction) competent instruction, excavation, the removal of stones and other such things lying above it and (finally) grasping, but never comes out by being (merely) called out by name, so the transparent Truth of the Self, which is hidden by Maya and its effects, is to be attained through the instructions of a knower of Brahman, followed by reflection, meditation and so forth, but not through perverted arguments.

Sage Sankara says: ~ VC-47- All the effects of ignorance, root, and branch, are burnt down by the fire of knowledge, which arises from discrimination between these two—the Self and the not-Self.

Remember:~

It really depends on his inborn natural capacity to understand and assimilate it. Sage Sri, Sankara’s wisdom is a Self-examiner, to test oneself to discover how near to Gnana he has approached and what progress has already been made on the path, and what still remains to be done. It sets up a criterion for Self-judgement. There are millions in search of truth but one in million will be able to grasp it.

Without Sage Sankara, there is no Advaita (nonduality). Since it was mixed up with orthodoxy there is lots of confusion.

All the Gurus who propagate Advaita of east and west air their knowledge base Advaita on the dualistic perspective and orthodox perspective.

I am highlighting all the obstacles, which are blocking one from realizing the ultimate truth or Brahman or God in truth.

There are so many non-dualistic masters of the east and also from the west who expound Advaitic or non-dualistic knowledge but none of them are helpful to reach the ultimate end.

The seeker has to know and realize the Self not the ‘I’ but the Soul. the seeker has to identify the Self as the Soul to find liberation from the bondage of the Maya of birth, life, death, and the world.

The goal of human life is to find and realize our identity with our Soul, which is the Self.

People refuse to accept anything other than their Gurus words. For them, their Gurus words are the ultimate truth. They do not accept anything else other than their accepted truth. There is no need to convince such a mindset.

Such a mindset is not fit to acquire Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana. The seekers of truth accept only the truth nothing but the uncontradictable truth

Remember:~

Unless the seeker drops all his accumulated knowledge and strives to realize the truth with patience and humility it is not possible to realize the ‘Self’ hidden by the dualistic illusion. In the path of wisdom discussion of the unimportant subject matter and creates a hindrance. The path of truth is the path of verification. Nothing has to be accepted as truth without verification.

The seeker has to read umpteen times, think deeply, and reflect repeatedly until his reasoning base becomes Soulcentric. Once he becomes he becomes Soulcentric the truth will start revealing on its own. As the seeker digs into old and new posts, he will gradually start understanding and assimilating the Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana.

We have to discard all accumulated knowledge accumulated from different Gurus and their teachings in order to realize the truth hidden by the Maya. : ~Santthosh Kumaar

Without Sage Sankara’s Advaitic wisdom, Self-realization is an impossibility.+

There is no higher or lower goal. Self- realization is the only goal. Without Sage Sankara’s Advaitic wisdom, Self-realization is an impossibility. When religion has become merely a matter of worshiping superstition, dogmas rituals, and ceremonies, it has become a cage for the Soul the Self.

God is not the religious Gods you believe in and worship. God is the Soul, the Self, which is present in the form of consciousness. Do not search for God in the external world because the god is hidden by the world in which you exist. Let these words be inscribed in your subconscious.

Nothing is real but the Soul, the God. Nothing matters but the realization of God. God pervades everywhere and in everything in the world in which you exist because the world in which you exist is merely an illusion created out of God, which is present in the form of consciousness. Consciousness, which is God, alone is and all else is an illusion.

Bhagavad Gita says: ~ ‘Brahmano hi pratisthaham’- Brahman (God) is considered the all-pervading consciousness which is the basis of all the animate and inanimate entities and material (Gita 14.27)

Some Gurus advised concentration on the sense “I” as a means to obtain realization. Some Gurus say “You should just go on thinking ‘I’ constantly the ‘I’ will shine as Self’. Such declarations are a great error because the ‘I’ itself is ignorance.

The ‘I-centric and ‘you-centric’ Gurus and their teaching deal with lower knowledge. The seeker has to ignore these ‘I-centric and ‘you-centric’ Gurus and their teaching to move to realize the higher truth hidden by the ‘I’.

The ‘I-centric and ‘you-centric’ Gurus and their teaching are unsafe rafts for crossing the sea of ignorance. Doomed to shipwreck are those who try to cross The sea ignorance on these poor rafts. Ignorant of their ignorance, yet wise in their esteem, these deluded men proud of their vain learning go round and round like the blind led by the blind.

That is why Bhagavan Buddha: ~ “Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders.

It is foolish to say ‘I AM GOD’ when the Self is not you, but the Self is the Soul. Therefore, the Soul, the Self, is God.

People say Aham Brahmasmi ~ I am God, I am Brahman. But when Brahman is, how can "I" remain? Only Brahman remains, not the ‘I’.

People study Vedanta and they are under the delusion and conclude that they say, ‘I AM Brahman’ or ‘I AM THAT’ but they fail to realize the fact that Brahman is everywhere and in everything! The existence of Brahman is not limited to his physical identity because, it the very essence of the form, time, and space.

Yoga Vasistha: ~ "Teachers, interpretations of sacred texts, the force of religious merit--none of these lead to the realization of that Ultimate Truth which is revealed in the clear reflection of the heart, engendered from contact with the good."

Sage Sankara: ~ VC Let erudite scholars quote all the Scripture, let Gods be invoked through sacrifices, let elaborate rituals be performed, let personal Gods be propitiated---yet, without the realization of one‘s identity With the Self, there shall be no liberation for the individual, not even in the lifetimes of a hundred Brahmas put together (verses-6)

Sage Sankara: ~ "Though I wear these robes of a Sanyasin, it is only for the sake of bread."

~ This shows he was wearing the religious robe only for the sake of bread." Thus, it means those who are wearing religious robes for the sake of bread.

Sage Sankara: ~ A Gnani "bears no outward mark of a holy man"

Thus, it proves that religious Gurus and yogis are not Gnanis because they identified themselves as holy people. The religious Gurus, yogis, and ‘I-centric’ ‘you-centric’ Gurus and their teachings are not Advaitic wisdom.

If you hold anyone as holy or anything as sacred you will never be able to transcend from dualistic illusion to non-dualistic reality. Other than the Soul nothing is holy and sacred.

A Gnani never claims himself as a Gnani, he guides the seekers, not posing himself as a Guru, and he does not force his wisdom on others.

Advaita is not a theory or a philosophy. Advaita is the nature of the Soul the innermost Self. There is no need for any theory or philosophy or scriptures to acquire Self-knowledge. Only a perfect understanding of ‘what is what’ is needed.

Rig Veda: ~ May ye never turn away from the Atman (Soul) the innermost self. May ye never accept another God in place of the Atman nor worship other than the Atman?" (10:48, 5)

Sage Sankara: ~"That which permeates all, which nothing transcends and which, like the universal space around us, fills everything from within and without, that Supreme non-dual Brahman (God) ~ that thou art."

That is why Sage Sankara says:~ The transparent Truth of the ‘Self’, which is hidden by the Maya (‘I’) and its effects, is to be attained through the instructions of a knower of Brahman (Gnani).

If you concentrate on the ‘I’ then you are concentrating on ignorance. If you focus your attention on believing the ‘‘Self’’ as the ‘I’ then your ignorance will become more and more deep-rooted.

Those who are stuck up with these ‘I-centric’ and ‘you-centric’ Gurus and their teaching will never be able to get rid of ignorance.

At a certain point, advice and words become meaningless. Those words may have served as a pointer along the way, and that’s fine, but sooner or later the seeker will have to discard these ‘I-centric’ and ‘you-centric’ Gurus and their teaching in order to get rid of the ignorance.

That is why Bhagavan Buddha said: ~ “Believe nothing because a wise man said it, Believe nothing because it is generally held. Believe nothing because it is written. Believe nothing because it is said to be divine. Believe nothing because someone else said it. But believe only what you, yourself judge to be true

All accumulated knowledge is of no use in the path of wisdom. Without realizing “What is the truth it is impossible to realize “What is untruth?” Without realizing what is truth and what is untruth it is impossible to assimilate the Self –Knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana. The seeker must know with full and firm conviction what truth is.

The wisdom consists in knowing the truth, that everything (mind or physical existence) is the consciousness. The freedom (ultimate truth) is always there yet one does not know it. But to those whose reason is turned away from physicality and who have attained the serenity of the Soul or the consciousness, the innermost ‘Self’, are quite near to realizing the ultimate truth or Brahman.

It is very difficult for those who strongly believe the ‘I’, as the ‘Self’, to realize the truth. Most of the spiritual paths hold the ‘I’, as the ‘Self’ and spin their imagination on the base of ‘I’, which leads them to hallucination. People mistake that ‘Self’ as “I” whereas the gross bodies are many. So the ‘I’ cannot be ‘Self’. By sentimentally and emotionally getting involved with some teachings or Guru is a great hindrance in pursuit of truth.

People hold their Guru as the ultimate authority and drop their pursuit of truth and indulge in their glorifying and worshiping the Gurus, which keeps them permanently in ignorance.

The serious seeker should constantly reflect on the ‘Self’ through a deeper self’-search. The Soul, the innermost ‘Self’ is in the form of consciousness.

Realizing the ‘Self’ is not ‘I’ but the ‘Self’ is the  Soul, which witnesses the ‘I’. ‘Self’-knowledge is the only tool for the acquisition of final freedom from experiencing the illusory duality as reality.

Sage Goudpada: ~ To establish the truth of Nonduality by sheer reasoning alone. He begins by defining "What is real?" "What is unreal?" etc, because that is the right way to discuss or teach. People must first know what they are talking about. (Manduka Karika)

The seeker has to make sure what is this ‘I’ supposed to be? The seeker has to make sure the unreal nature of the ‘I’ which comes and goes in order to realize the truth, which is beyond the form, time, and space.

That is why Bhagavad Gita: ~ “The permanent is always there, only the transient ‘I’ comes and goes. (2.18)

The ‘I’ hides the truth of the Soul. The Soul is the whole universe because the universe is nothing but an illusion created out of the Soul. the soul becomes the universe in waking experience and the universe becomes Soul in deep sleep.

People think the ‘I’ without the body is the ‘Self’. The seeker has to understand the fact that ‘I’ is not the ‘Self’, but the witness of the ‘I’ is the true ‘Self’, which is eternal.

That is why Ashtavakra Gita 16:10:~ “If you desire liberation, but you still say "I," If you feel the ‘‘Self’’ is the ‘I’, You are not a wise man or a seeker. You are simply a man who suffers.

People are stuck with the reality of the ‘I’, which they take as real because some Gurus have propagated the ‘Self’ is the ‘I’. There is no need to convince such a mindset. The seeker of truth accepts only the truth nothing but the truth.

That is why Sage Sankara says: - VC-65- As a treasure hidden underground requires (for its extraction) competent instruction, excavation, the removal of stones and other such things lying above it and (finally) grasping, but never come out by being (merely) called out by name, so the transparent Truth of the ‘Self’, which is hidden by Maya and its effects, is to be attained through the instructions of a knower of Brahman, followed by reflection, meditation and so forth, but not through perverted arguments.

People refuse to accept anything other than their Gurus words. For them, their Gurus words are the ultimate truth. They do not accept anything else other than their accepted truth. There is no need to convince such a mindset.

Such a mindset is not fit to acquire Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana. The seekers of truth accept only the truth nothing but the uncontradictable truth. : ~ Santthosh Kumaar

Holding the Self as the ‘I’ is holding the illusory universe or Maya as a reality.+

The Soul is the ‘Self’. The ‘I’ is not the Soul. Holding the Self as the ‘I’ is holding the illusory universe or Maya as a reality. There is a need to know what is ‘I’ before indulging in the pursuit of truth.

Dualist Gurus including many thinkers could not distinguish between the Self and the ‘I. They hold Self as 'I'. Their highest was the Jiva. They are so much attached to the 'I' that they do not want to think that 'I' does not exist. Again they are unable to detach the ‘I’ from the Real Self, which is the Soul or consciousness.

The dualist object: - If everything else is false then the statement I am Brahman is itself false, but when one says non-duality is false, there must be the awareness, consciousness, behind the very statement. You will also go, die. One has to rely upon that which is permanent. The Soul, the witness of the ‘I’ alone is permanent and eternal. Anything that one says is a witnessed (waking), but there is the Soul, the witness (consciousness) there before any statement could be made.

They mean the body by “I", but it is the Soul, the witness which is the real Self. Theists dualists did not, or could not analyze further than ‘I’ on this point because they thought the ‘I’ without the body as the ‘Self’.

Remember:~

WHAT IS ‘I’?

The ‘I’ disappears as deep sleep, so what is the use of being attached to it? It is impermanent and illusory.

There is really no ‘I’. The ‘I’ is present in the form of the mind. And the mind is in the form of the universe.

The universe appears as the waking or dream. The ‘I’ or mind or universe or waking or dream dies disappears as deep sleep.

One that appears as ‘I’ or the mind or universe or waking or dream is nothing but consciousness and it disappears as deep sleep is also consciousness.

In deep sleep, it is in its formless nondual true nature. The one, which witnesses the coming and going of the three states, is also consciousness. Thus, the witness and the witnessed are one, in essence.

The universe is a reality on the base of the ego. You are the ego. The ego is the false self (ego) within the false experience (waking).

The universe is unreal on the base of the Soul, the ‘Self’. The Soul is present in the form of consciousness.

The seeker gradually will grasp and realize the unreal nature of the universe (‘I’ or mind).

Remember:~

Individuality is illusory because the ‘Self’ is not an individual because ‘Self’ is a formless, timeless, and spaceless existence and it pervades in everything and everywhere in all the three states.

Dualist’ Gurus and saints have written big volumes about the Soul. Yet they are quite ignorant of the fact that the ‘I’ about which they write itself’ comes and goes and has no permanent existence, is only an idea after all.

What is it that appears as the ‘I’ and disappears as the ‘I-less? It is the Soul, which is present in the form of consciousness.

Do not make the mistake of holding the Self as the ‘I’ because it is not permanent. ‘I’ disappears and becomes ‘I’-less Soul.

‘I’ is an illusion and the ‘I-less Soul is real and eternal. The ‘I-less Soul ‘appears as ‘I’ and ‘I ’‘disappears as I-less Soul.

Bhagavad Gita: ~ The permanent is always there, only the transient ‘I’ comes and goes. (2.18)

The ‘I’ hides the Soul, the ‘Self’.

Dualists think the ‘I’ without the body is the Self. The seeker has to understand the fact that ‘I’ is not the Self, but the Soul, the witness of the ‘I’ is the true Self, which is unborn eternal.

That is why Ashtavakra Gita 16:10:~ If you desire liberation, but you still say "I," if you feel the ‘Self’ is the ‘I’, you are not a wise man or a seeker. You are simply a man who suffers. : ~ Santthosh Kumaar